It's on an open mailing list, so I am going to repost it without compunction. The whole conversation has a delightful air of Stretchford Polytechnic about it. Now read on. - latest comments at the top.
(Edit 10.10.2005 - one set of comments removed at the request of the original poster.)
Free stuff in the bar
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Ali, Tamoor
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International Women�s Day
Hi Guys,
The Studentsââ?¬â?¢ Union is celebrating International Womenââ?¬â?¢s day by ââ?¬Å?looking after the women in the Universityââ?¬Â? We have several different organisations on to campus in the bar waiting for youââ?¬Â¦
Pool room
Lush
Nails
Hair
Anne summers
Bar
Thorntons
Free condoms!
And much much more�.with free chocolates and other free goodies.
Tamoor Ali
V.P. Academic & Welfare
Students' Union
University
of
Essex
Wivenhoe Park
Colchester
C04 3SQ
t: 01206 863211
f: 01206 870915
Curtin, Mary E
To: "Ali, Tamoor"
My my my, it is a sad day indeed when INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY--at ESSEX UNIVERSITY, with its RADICAL past,--is commemorated only with chocolate and condoms and overpriced soap! Is historical amnesia and consumer overload SO complete, so REPLETE, in our politically impoverished land that we have forgotten that this day was first organized in 1911 by women socialists and has ever since been a day for strikes and marches for peace as well as women's rights?
In today's INDEPENDENT, there is an article that tells us that most girls, by the age of SIX, are unhappy with their weight; there is another article detailing how riot police in Turkey used tear gas and truncheons on female protesters.
We all love chocolate, but it is also worthwhile to use this day to reflect on a world that still values women for how they look and beats them for what they believe.
Mary Ellen Curtin
Department of History
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From: owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk
[mailto:owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Ali, Tamoor
Sent: 08 March 2005 10:49
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Subject: Free stuff in the bar
International Women's Day
Hi Guys,
The Students' Union is celebrating International Women's day by "looking
after the women in the University" We have several different
organisations on to campus in the bar waiting for you...
Pool room
Lush
Nails
Hair
Anne summers
Bar
Thorntons
Free condoms!
And much much more....with free chocolates and other free goodies.
Tamoor Ali
V.P. Academic & Welfare
Students' Union
University of Essex
Wivenhoe Park
Colchester
C04 3SQ
t: 01206 863211
f: 01206 870915
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Sent: 08 March 2005 11:31
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Good, Julian R P
To: "Ali, Tamoor"
Celebrating International Women's Day with a nail and hair bar?
Perhaps I am wrong in thinking that there is more to people than nails
and hair?
Somebody put his misguided person right, then, please.
Julian Good.
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Vigors, Anthony D
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I'll wager there's a lot more on offer than getting your nails and hair
done. I know that one of the girls was up until past 3 o'clock this
morning organising things for this event.
Perhaps rather than mocking the hard work that these girls have put into
this event people would like to go see what they are trying to achieve
and show them some support.
Tony Vigors
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Leena Ghosh
To: "Ali, Tamoor"
I have to say that I agree with the remarks of the 2 below and add that it
is precisely this type of trivialisation of women that perpetuates the
disconnection between man and woman and the struggle of equality and
women's' rights.
Let's us celebrate the entirety of women as opposed to just how to make her
look better (for men perhaps?)
Leena
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Oughton, Gareth J
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Dear All,
Some may say it is an even sadder day, when a group of democratically
elected students who have spent a considerable amount of time organising
today's events get chastised by university staff members.
For your information, there are stands in the Bar and in the Pool Room
(where today's 'objectifying' events are taking place) with details of
the history behind International Women's Day, petitions for women's
democratic rights in Kuwait, comparisons of how International Women's
Day is being celebrated across the world, Sexual Health information and
there is also promotion for tonight's talk on 'Women and Islam.'
The students on the Women's Committee decided that after several years
of a solely political approach (with very little student engagement),
people might be more receptive to a less 'in-your-face' approach. They
decided to get the message across in a more subtle way and do something
a bit more fun.
The Students' Union Executive Committee will support active students in
any way we can and therefore completely support the members of Women's
Committee who have put so much work into making today a success. It is
worth noting that because of this 'objectifying' approach, we have got
more student interest in International Women's Day than ever before.
I hope that clears up some of your concerns,
Gareth
Gareth Oughton
President
University of Essex Students' Union
Wivenhoe Park
Colchester
Essex
CO4 3SQ
Tel: 01206 863211
E: president@essex.ac.uk
http://www.essexstudent.com
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Landman, Todd
To: "Vigors, Anthony D"
Sorry, I though they were women!
Todd
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[mailto:owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Vigors, Anthony D
Sent: 08 March 2005 12:11
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Subject: RE: Free stuff in the bar
I'll wager there's a lot more on offer than getting your nails and hair
done. I know that one of the girls was up until past 3 o'clock this
morning organising things for this event.
Perhaps rather than mocking the hard work that these girls have put into
this event people would like to go see what they are trying to achieve
and show them some support.
Tony Vigors
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From: owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk
[mailto:owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Good, Julian R P
Sent: 08 March 2005 11:50
To: Ali, Tamoor; smallads-staff - subscription list; smallads-student -
subscription list
Subject: RE: Free stuff in the bar
Celebrating International Women's Day with a nail and hair bar?
Perhaps I am wrong in thinking that there is more to people than nails
and hair?
Somebody put his misguided person right, then, please.
Julian Good.
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Robinson, Owen
To: "Vigors, Anthony D"
Perhaps if 'free stuff at the bar' wasn't prioritised over
'International Women's Day' in the original email it would be easier to
take seriously...And how is raising serious political objection to the
way something is presented 'mockery'?! This is a university, is it not?
Owen
Dr Owen Robinson
Department of Literature, Film, and Theatre Studies
University of Essex
Wivenhoe Park
Colchester CO4 3SQ
U.K.
Tel: 01206 872617
Email: orobin@essex.ac.uk
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Clary, Joanne L
To: "Vigors, Anthony D"
Well, I'm not sure about calling them 'girls' Tony, but I'm very grateful for their hard work ;-)
I'd like to be able to call myself a feminist AND get free stuff. See you all there!
Jo
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Ben Clements
To: "Robinson, Owen"
Perhaps all we're really celebrating are the gender-neutral commercial and
consumer achievements of some unknown people??
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Patrick, Peter L
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why didn't any of this other fine stuff get advertised
to what I take to be a primarily-staff list?
I see nothing wrong with vigorous political discussion
taking place between staff and students, personally
(and whether they are democratically elected or not
is perfectly irrelevant). I know this is not a discussion
list, but if someone posts to it, they are entitled to
expect list-members to react. Students, and their representatives, who
are engaged in political profile- raising can't afford to be too
thin-skinned - anyone who has done it knows that won't get you very far.
on the other hand, THIS list is about consumer products,
at one level, so we shouldn't get too upset if that is highlighted.
perhaps the students are so radicalized, and have so little faith in
staff's political commitment, that they think the only way to get us to
show up is superficial goodies... or perhaps it was just a careless
moment...
what is apparent is that the goodies on offer are not
designed to attract male interest, only female (fair enough), so this
attempt at increasing accessibility isn't going to work for most of the
people who have reacted critically today!
-plp-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
> Oughton, Gareth J
> Sent: 08 March 2005 12:23
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> subscription list
> Subject: RE: Free stuff in the bar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-smallads-staff@essex.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Curtin, Mary E
> Sent: 08 March 2005 11:31
> To: Ali, Tamoor; smallads-staff - subscription list;
> smallads-student - subscription list
> Subject: RE: Free stuff in the bar
>
>
> My my my, it is a sad day indeed when INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S
> DAY--at ESSEX UNIVERSITY, with its RADICAL past,--is
> commemorated only with chocolate and condoms and overpriced
> soap! Is historical amnesia and consumer overload SO
> complete, so REPLETE, in our politically impoverished land
> that we have forgotten that this day was first organized in
> 1911 by women socialists and has ever since been a day for
> strikes and marches for peace as well as women's rights?
>
> In today's INDEPENDENT, there is an article that tells us
> that most girls, by the age of SIX, are unhappy with their
> weight; there is another article detailing how riot police in
> Turkey used tear gas and truncheons on female protesters.
>
> We all love chocolate, but it is also worthwhile to use this
> day to reflect on a world that still values women for how
> they look and beats them for what they believe.
>
> Mary Ellen Curtin
> Department of History
>
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